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transmitting from the mojave wilderness

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in Joshua Tree California now is the

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time for desert Oracle radio the voice

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of the desert I don't know if you saw

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the news on Saturday but it has been

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revealed that the United States

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Department of Defense has for many years

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run a secret black budget UFO research

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program out of the Pentagon when it was

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the big news on Saturday the big news

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and the New York Times I have often

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wondered what it would be like when the

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US government confirmed that

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unidentified aerial phenomena were real

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and here we are our friend Jeremy Canyon

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Lockyer Korbel the documentary filmmaker

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at extraordinary beliefs calm has just

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returned to pioneer town from the

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mysterious Utah ranch mentioned in that

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New York Times article Jeremy let's get

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right to it what we have long known is

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[Applause]

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there is an active UFO program within

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the United States government well-funded

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by the black budgets now Dana White was

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the pentagon spokeswoman she confirmed

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the advanced aviation threat

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identification program she claimed it

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ended in 2012 I personally know that to

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be untrue and I think that information

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will be coming out soon you are just

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back in pioneer town from where

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skinwalker ranch now that is very

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convenient Jeremy what were you doing at

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skinwalker ranch so skinwalker ranch as

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we talked about before on your show is

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this location that is known as one of

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the many global hot spots for anomalous

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activity which includes UFOs

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it used to be owned by Robert Bigelow it

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is under new ownership and this last

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trip out there was tectonic know the

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mirror Times mentions the Utah ranch

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that big loan says he passed ownership

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on to another organization or as an

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individual in fact yeah Bigelow did sell

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the ranch this is it public information

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if people look he did sell the ranch but

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the new owner wishes to remain anonymous

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at this time and there's no way for

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people the public in general to find out

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specifically who it is I don't think

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that's the most important part however

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did you buy skinwalker ranch Jeremy you

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know what I I was on the cusp of

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throwing down to be part owner I mean

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what not good lord

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yeah that'd be that'd be the air B&B

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from hell that would literally be the

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air B&B from hell however there needs to

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be security at the ranch not just

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because of the reported phenomenon but

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also just because people are trespassing

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and that's an area of the world like out

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here in pioneer town where you're gonna

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be on the wrong end of a shotgun if you

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start trespassing this is indeed cattle

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country and people take their privacy

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very seriously

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Walker Ranch is a privately owned

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location and people may not go there I'm

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us invited we've been doing this work

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out there for quite some time and

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following in the footsteps and with

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George Knapp who has really laid the

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foundation for 20 years to be able to

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report on this and with the sale of the

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ranch from Bigelow we're able to now

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open the story wide our number one goal

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was to work with current law enforcement

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the tribal police because the reports of

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phenomenon that occur all around the UN

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- basin not just the ranch are so

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spectacular we figured a good angle to

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understand this was to speak with the

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law enforcement that needed and needs to

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respond to these events seriously but

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for me the biggest thing about this trip

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was to finally peel back a layer and

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that was to speak with long-term

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residents people who lived out there

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in that area surrounding the ranch

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because the ranch is just the most

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studied area the entire you intubation

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is subject to high activity so talking

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with people who have lived out there for

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30 years or more this was the most

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emotional part of the trip finally I got

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to sit down with somebody I had been

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speaking with for months and get her on

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camera her experiences mirror their

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experiences that were reported in George

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Nelson column Kelleher's book called

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hunt for the skinwalker

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after months of talking about these

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experiences in a positive light the

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moment I clicked record she had an

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absolute emotional meltdown and the

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question they want answered is is this

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paranormal is this real phenomena or is

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this some sick and twisted experiment

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like MKULTRA by the United States

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government she wants to know skinwalker

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ranch it's in the UN - based in the UN -

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basin is a sovereign nation by the ute

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tribe one of the areas of high activity

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of bottle hollow it's an area where

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there's lots of reports and that's

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we were actually allowed with permits

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for the first time ever being given out

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media permits to film and to camp in

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that area on this last trip we actually

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were the first ever to get permits again

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to film and to spend time at a place

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called dark Canyon dark Canyon is the

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mouth kind of where the the water flows

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down through towards the area of

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skinwalker ranch so they say that the

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path of the skinwalker like any animal

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follows that stream or follows that

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water so up where we were in dark Canyon

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was known to be more of the home of the

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skinwalker which was terribly

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frightening being out there at midnight

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you sent me some pictures from the ranch

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during your recent trip one you're in a

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pasture or field pointing at what looks

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like a drainage canal or I'm not quite

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sure what it was but he said this is the

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center of the recent activity what was

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that picture of and what's going on

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there that's just a river that basically

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runs through skinwalker ranch there was

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a particular area right before homestead

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- that is an area that is described in

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the book that George Knapp and Colin

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Kelleher wrote where some of the

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scientists were there and they saw what

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looked like geometric porthole that

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opened up and a creature climbed out of

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it additionally it's where the original

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owner of the ranch when this all started

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going down saw the sky split open on

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multiple occasions showing a different

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reality on the other side of that sky

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and craft flying out so that that photo

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was essentially showing this path where

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some of the highest activity occur I

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mean remember another person mentioned

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in these articles it's very important as

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the first American to orbit the earth

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its former Senator John Glenn so John

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Glenn had experiences that he reported

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to Senator Harry Reid that was also part

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of the push to take this seriously and

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let's just quote Lou Elizondo again here

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in one of the articles you know he makes

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the point if a Russian bear bomber

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comes in near California it is all over

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the news these are coming in the skies

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over our facilities nothing but crickets

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so his point is that when you have these

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AAA v's or anomalous aerial vehicles

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flying saucers coming over nuclear

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facilities and shutting down for example

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ballistic missiles like they did when

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Robert Salas was in command of those

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missiles when you have missiles shut

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down by UFOs this is an aspect of

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national security that requires our

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funding and our attention these events

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they are occurring and have been

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occurring ever since we've been watching

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we're bombarded by so much information

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on a daily basis in the news cycle that

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it was easy to miss that the Pentagon

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and the New York Times and the former

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leader of the US Senate we're all

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declaring on the record that we are not

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alone

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UFOs are real that is precisely what was

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said yesterday it is a message that is

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yet to has really sunk in it's gonna get

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much stranger there's a great mind in

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this field named Jacques Vallee Jacques

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Vallee was a participant in creating the

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ETH the extra-terrestrial hypothesis he

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abandoned this hypothesis all the way

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back probably in 1960s because he

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realized the data no longer supported

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that theory that these craft were simply

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extraterrestrials visiting from other

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star systems what we have learned since

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the 60s is that this display this UFO

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display that it is much more complex in

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the old days you know we talked about

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these entities and these craft in the

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skies in terms of gods and demons are we

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going to find out that's correct an

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advanced

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seen from the perspective of an

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unintelligible society might appear

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magical and mystical godlike there is

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more often than not some sort of

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physical psychological and spiritual

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experience that people have with other

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entities that seem to appear

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biological and seem to tell a narrative

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we have been speaking to Jeremy Korbel

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of extraordinary beliefs calm Jeremy

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you've got a movie out right now tell us

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about that one so that movie is called

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patient seventeen and it's about an

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alleged alien implant removal it is

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currently on iTunes my next film will be

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on Bob Lazar from Amboy twos Isaac's and

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across the Great Mojave wilderness this

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has been desert Oracle radio

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broadcasting from KC DZ 107.7 FM in

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downtown Joshua Tree all over 29 palms

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clear across Yucca Valley boy you can

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hear it and Kelso and the airs just